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  • New owner of a 172 standard

    From the gulf coast and currently living in Germany. Got the boat bug and bought a 1986 17 on line! Picked it up while in the states recently and moved it to my condo storage Lot. Covered it and flew back to DEU. Nice looking boat. No gauges. The cut outs were covered with starboard(?) And all teak replaced with the same stuff. The transom passed the test I found on this site. Hull is cosmetically a 8/10. Console needs some work. The early 1990's Johnson 115 seems to run fine as well as power trim. Concerned about the rusted steering arm though. Aluminum trailer looks and trails great. Pulled it 150 miles with no problem. However, wife in trailing car noticed a lot of dirty water pouring out the drain as I pulled the boat. Several obvious places where water can get in. No bow light and small square opening on starboard side near transom was uncovered. What is this opening for? Also, do the rod holders on the gunwales drain to the bilge?

    Can't wait to get back permanently and get it on the water!
    SeaWatter

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    Welcome to CM! Post up some pics. Water does get trapped and can flow out over stringers when trailering, nothing to really be concerned about, but some of us do get a little crazy chasing a permanently dry bilge. []. Rod holders should not drain unless rotten bottoms or replaced. Not sure what hole you are talking about - post up a picture.
    1978 Mako 25 - Blind Hog
    1985 Mako 20c - sold
    Fort Walton Beach, FL
    http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=42841

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    • #3
      Thanks!

      I will try to post some pics when I figure out how to do it.

      There are two drained, covered boxes in the stern. One on each side. The small opening I am talking about is at the aft end of the box on the starboard side. About 5x5 inches square. Looks like some sort of access point.
      SeaWatter

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      • #4
        Welcome! Post up some pics. From your description you have a standard model. Not all rod holders have sealed bottoms so they would drain into the bilge. Water tends to get trapped in the outer stringers. The 5x5 access hatch is for access to the bilge. Once you get home pull the hatch cover and look for standing water. Also check for any gas fumes just incase. The 115 Johnson should push you along to about 35MPH. Check to see what the pitch and diameter of the prop. Suggest getting a tachometer so what you know the motor RPM at WOT. On our 17 I redesigned the total console layout and covered the old holes with teak and starboard. When the time comes, check motor water pump, drain lower unit, check /replace spark plugs, drain gas tank and inspect all hoses and replace/install water separator filter. The 17 is a good back bay boat and with trim tabs is ocean worthy.
        Keyman[br]Paoli, PA

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        • #5
          Thank you guys! Great advise. We just returned to Germany last Sunday. Flight was a nightmare and our luggage has not been located yet. My camera with pics I took is with our luggage! I do have some pics from eBay I will try to post.
          SeaWatter

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          • #6
            Here ya go for how to post pics: http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=45829

            We love boat porn!
            Jibber[br]Newnan, Ga to Orange Beach, Ala[br]99\' Mako 221

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            • #7
              Welcome to the addiction!

              That small 5x5 opening is where your bilge thru hull is located on the starboard side of the hull and like Keyman stated, bilge access.

              Lookin forward to some pics of the new ride!
              Just call me \"J.\"[br]77 Mako 21 Project[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=35110[br]85 Mako 17 / 90 ETEC - SOLD[br]Wilmington, NC[br]

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              • #8
                Thanks folks! This is a great site, Was too busy today to post the pics but do have a photobucket account now. Anxious to see the pics I took but luggage is still missing. Spent about 40 min on the phone with the airline this evening and as far as they could tell my luggage is still at Dulles! There was no cover on the 5x5 bilge thru hull access point. What was there originally and how was it fastened?

                Thanks again!
                SeaWatter

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                • #9
                  Hope you get your luggage soon.... I hate it when the airlines loose your luggage. I travel with carry on's for that reason alone...

                  There was a small piece teak wood there before. It would have been screwed down with regular ss screws. Use king starboard to replace it and the upkeep is less.
                  Just call me \"J.\"[br]77 Mako 21 Project[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=35110[br]85 Mako 17 / 90 ETEC - SOLD[br]Wilmington, NC[br]

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                  • #10
                    OK. Here are the sellers pics. If I ever get my luggage I will post the pics I took.










                    SeaWatter

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                    • #11
                      Overall the hull inside and outside is in really good shape, especially for its age (going on 28 years!). The console has some wear and tear. What looks like speakers are actually speaker holes. The console lights need replacing. As suggested, I will add a tach. I'll need to install a bow, stern, and probably an anchor light plus the switches. I couldn't get the bilge pump access cover off with my bare hands. I guess I could unscrew it by tapping with a hammer and dowel or block. I have a feeling there is no bilge pump. I'll add a fuel strainer/filter as suggested. It's probably a 28yo gas tank so I guess I should carry an external tank every time I go out? As I said earlier, the engine steering arm is pretty rusted. Does anybody have any experience with getting those changed?
                      SeaWatter

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                      • #12
                        Does the motor turn easily? The arm is part of the steering cable and extends through the tubes. You could try sanding with emery cloth and light penetrating oil. you want to clean the arm before turning the motor to prevent pulling rust into the cylinder tubes and damaging the seal. If you need to replace the steering cable the motor will need to be moved to port because of the bend radius of the cable. If the steering is tight sometimes applying heat to the tube will loosen it by melting the old grease. Boat looks really clean. Make sure the VRO is functioning properly which provides oil mix to the motor.
                        Keyman[br]Paoli, PA

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                        • #13

                          SeaWatter

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                          • #14
                            The arm that is connected to the shaft on number 20 in the diagram is pretty rusted. The steering tube looks pretty new and turns easily. My luggage arrived and I got the model number of the engine. It is a 1998 model. I have a couple of more photos I will upload. I have always pre mixed the oil and never used VRO. I only spent about a 1/2 hour looking over the boat. Where is the oil reservoir located?
                            SeaWatter

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                            • #15
                              The VRO unit is part of the fuel pump assembly located on the front of the motor. The hose should come out of the shroud at the front and go to the external tank. Perhaps the PO removed the remote tank if you have not located it. At least earlier model Evinrudes use this set up and not an integral tank like MERC.
                              Keyman[br]Paoli, PA

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