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  • Mako 254 Full Rebuild MECHY III ::: Fiberglass ?'s

    So, now that I'm done with the 17 I've been looking for an offshore boat to go halves on with my brother. This boat will replace the Mako 21. I've been looking for something in the 25-30 foot range.

    I recently bought a 1985 Mako 25 center console twin 2000 Yamahas HPDIs and a trailer included paid $5000.

    Motors have been removed and are sold. Also sold the electronics.

    The good

    -Have $1500 in the hull and trailer after selling what I could

    -T-Top is really nice and came with Taco outriggers in great shape

    -Tank was replaced 4 years ago but its only 126 gal

    -Picked up a Stainless Marine twin bracket with new powder-coating for $1300

    -Stringers seem solid except for transom area

    -I get most building materials at cost from a friend

    The Bad

    -Transom is shot

    -Some soft spots on deck

    -Tank is too small so it needs to be replaced

    -Trailer may not be long enough to accommodate bracket

    The ugly

    -That would be my brother that still hasn't touched the grinder

    Plans

    This boat will get a full restore. Any wet or rotten wood will be replaced with Coosa. Transom will be closed in with Coosa bluewater 26. Add bracket and repower with New Suzuki I4 200s fly by wire. Awlgrip Matterhorn white for bottom, inside and deck. Hull will be Awlcraft Jet Black or Empress Blue. Add a Livewell leaning post.

    Working on pics now
    -Raul
    from Tampa, FL

    :::Under Construction:::
    1985 Mako 254 - Twin Suzuki 200s in the future
    http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...rglass-squot-s

    1987 Mako 171 Angler - 2017 Suzuki 115
    http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...ngler-splashed

    1987 Mako 21B - 2013 Suzuki 150 4 stroke For Sale Soon

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    Any advice on how to upload other that imgur? I dont want to have to resize all my pics
    -Raul
    from Tampa, FL

    :::Under Construction:::
    1985 Mako 254 - Twin Suzuki 200s in the future
    http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...rglass-squot-s

    1987 Mako 171 Angler - 2017 Suzuki 115
    http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...ngler-splashed

    1987 Mako 21B - 2013 Suzuki 150 4 stroke For Sale Soon

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    • #3
      I use Tiny pic. Has a selection for pic size when you upload. It's pretty quick.

      Look forward to seeing the progress
      1988 Mako 261

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      • #4
        I give up on embedding pics. Heres my google photos album.

        https://photos.app.goo.gl/cXv6rCojGe96Ptp19
        -Raul
        from Tampa, FL

        :::Under Construction:::
        1985 Mako 254 - Twin Suzuki 200s in the future
        http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...rglass-squot-s

        1987 Mako 171 Angler - 2017 Suzuki 115
        http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...ngler-splashed

        1987 Mako 21B - 2013 Suzuki 150 4 stroke For Sale Soon

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        • #5
          Dang it Raul, you have to post these deals on the HPDIs when you sell em!

          Where in Tampa are you? I have a similar size boat that also needs some work. Maybe we can split some materials/parts if buying in bigger quantities saves some money.

          For imgur there is an auto resize feature to just below the add images buttom that I believe you can use to make smaller.
          1981 15\' Boston Whaler, 1987 MidOcean 26, 1973 22\' Mako (Hull+trailer for sale)

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          • #6
            Nice project.

            What was the area under the console? Looks like it could have had a head in there but I don't think I've seen an '85 built with that drop down. (yes attaching pics from google is a PIA)

            How are the stringers? Did the termites get into them as well?
            1978 Mako 25 - Blind Hog
            1985 Mako 20c - sold
            Fort Walton Beach, FL
            http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=42841

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            • #7
              quote:


              Originally posted by Sailor


              Nice project.


              What was the area under the console? Looks like it could have had a head in there but I don't think I've seen an '85 built with that drop down. (yes attaching pics from google is a PIA)

              How are the stringers? Did the termites get into them as well?


              I have the same year boat in St. Pete.

              That area under the console is where the aux tank was if it came with the boat, or it had that lid on it, which was only a couple inches lower than the hatch on it that you saw that matched the tank lid. Mine was slap full of water when I bought my boat and I have no idea how it got in there. Mine now houses my batteries and will eventually be a place to have a head.
              \'07 Mako 19 bay, sold[br]\'76 Mako 21, sold[br]\'77 Mako 21, dump[br]\'77 Mako 22, sold[br]\'80 Mako 23 WA, sold[br]\'82 Mako 21, sold[br]\'85 Mako 254 currently[br]\'78 J24 USA 292 (sold)[br]\'05 Melges 32 racing sailboat

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              • #8
                Well as you can see in the picture the stringer does not look good. With the several large softs on deck and the stringers rotten/termite damaged at up to least 4 feet from the transom I've made the decision for a full rebuild.

                Going to cut the deck out tomorrow and remove all foam.

                New stringers will be deck height and sides of the gunwales will be removed. also planning on removing the storage deck up front and replacing with a single coffin box.

                My glass skills are pretty limited but I feel confident I can replicate the pictures Ive seen on this site the last few years. (Any guidance or suggestions are more than welcomed)

                My brother and I are pumped about this boat and want to get it done as quickly as possible. We want to splash summer 2020. We'll see lol




                -Raul
                from Tampa, FL

                :::Under Construction:::
                1985 Mako 254 - Twin Suzuki 200s in the future
                http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...rglass-squot-s

                1987 Mako 171 Angler - 2017 Suzuki 115
                http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...ngler-splashed

                1987 Mako 21B - 2013 Suzuki 150 4 stroke For Sale Soon

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                • #9
                  Busy Day

                  3 rolls of 1708, 1 roll CSM, 55g drum of resin and all composite material for the build is ordered















                  Going to save the hatchs and gutters. They are in good shape so I'll glass them back in.



                  In floor bait well will be repuposed as a trash can and moved in front of console



                  7 hours later dinner after a long days work


                  -Raul
                  from Tampa, FL

                  :::Under Construction:::
                  1985 Mako 254 - Twin Suzuki 200s in the future
                  http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...rglass-squot-s

                  1987 Mako 171 Angler - 2017 Suzuki 115
                  http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...ngler-splashed

                  1987 Mako 21B - 2013 Suzuki 150 4 stroke For Sale Soon

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                  • #10
                    I would be interested in any hatches you are going to toss for the 254. Mine need some love or replacement.
                    \'07 Mako 19 bay, sold[br]\'76 Mako 21, sold[br]\'77 Mako 21, dump[br]\'77 Mako 22, sold[br]\'80 Mako 23 WA, sold[br]\'82 Mako 21, sold[br]\'85 Mako 254 currently[br]\'78 J24 USA 292 (sold)[br]\'05 Melges 32 racing sailboat

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                    • #11
                      quote:


                      Originally posted by thejeepguy87


                      I would be interested in any hatches you are going to toss for the 254. Mine need some love or replacement.



                      I'll keep it in mind but I plan on glassing them back in to save on the replacement cost. They are in very good shape. Somebody took care of this boat, they just didn't know what silicon or 4000 is used for.
                      -Raul
                      from Tampa, FL

                      :::Under Construction:::
                      1985 Mako 254 - Twin Suzuki 200s in the future
                      http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...rglass-squot-s

                      1987 Mako 171 Angler - 2017 Suzuki 115
                      http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...ngler-splashed

                      1987 Mako 21B - 2013 Suzuki 150 4 stroke For Sale Soon

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                      • #12
                        I put my material order on hold so I can verify my build with some of you guys first. I want to make sure I don't screw this up so I have a few questions.

                        1st... Before I cut the stringers out I know I need to support the hull so it doesn't fall off to the sides like a soft taco. I cant find any pics of how this is done. Can someone share?

                        2nd... This is my plan on materials and layup

                        Transom core https://www.fgci.com/item/135211/Fib...ck-x-48-x-96-/

                        For transom layup I plan on 2 layers 1708-45/45 on outside skin, then a layer of 1.5oz CSM before the core. Ill make a mayo consistency putty with poly resin, cabosil and a bunch of chopped strands to bond core and drill a ton of small holes in core to get as much air out as possible.

                        Then tab 2 layers on transom core to hull.

                        Inside skin will be 8 layers of 1708-45/45 with maybe 2 layers of that being 1708-0/90. Then finish with a layer of CSM

                        I want this over built

                        Stingers is where I'm a little nervous.

                        I want to use this to keep cost down and because it seems easy to work with https://www.fgci.com/item/124988/Pol...Sheet-02lb-2-/

                        So I cut new stingers to size, tab in and how many layers of glass should I use 6,8,10? Again I want overkill.

                        Deck will probably be made with this as core https://www.fgci.com/item/135209/Fib...ck-x-48-x-96-/ but I open to recommendations for anything in this build.

                        Thank you so much for any guidance you can provide
                        -Raul
                        from Tampa, FL

                        :::Under Construction:::
                        1985 Mako 254 - Twin Suzuki 200s in the future
                        http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...rglass-squot-s

                        1987 Mako 171 Angler - 2017 Suzuki 115
                        http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...ngler-splashed

                        1987 Mako 21B - 2013 Suzuki 150 4 stroke For Sale Soon

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                        • #13
                          Im a huge supporter of removing the boat from the trailer. When I have replaced stringers the majority of the time I place the keel of the boat directly on the ground like on a concrete slab. This allows the the belly to rest so to speak. Then I block up the stern and level the boat. I have had great success with this. I was always taught to never do it on the trailer due to the boat hull has the possibility to warp. Not that it cant be done on the trailer but I would take extra steps to support, block and level before the stringers are removed and if possible do one at a time. The last thing you want is to create a warp, twist or hook causing problems later. I wish I had pictures to explain what I have done over the years but I dont. Just take your time and it will all come to you. If it dont feel right or look right it wont be in the end. Best of luck to you.
                          BadMako.[br]

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                          • #14
                            Im a huge supporter of removing the boat from the trailer. When I have replaced stringers the majority of the time I place the keel of the boat directly on the ground like on a concrete slab. This allows the the belly to rest so to speak. Then I block up the stern and level the boat. I have had great success with this. I was always taught to never do it on the trailer due to the boat hull has the possibility to warp. Not that it cant be done on the trailer but I would take extra steps to support, block and level before the stringers are removed and if possible do one at a time. The last thing you want is to create a warp, twist or hook causing problems later. I wish I had pictures to explain what I have done over the years but I dont. Just take your time and it will all come to you. If it dont feel right or look right it wont be in the end. Best of luck to you.
                            BadMako.[br]

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                            • #15
                              quote:


                              Originally posted by BarryJohnsonjr


                              Im a huge supporter of removing the boat from the trailer. When I have replaced stringers the majority of the time I place the keel of the boat directly on the ground like on a concrete slab. This allows the the belly to rest so to speak. Then I block up the stern and level the boat. I have had great success with this. I was always taught to never do it on the trailer due to the boat hull has the possibility to warp. Not that it cant be done on the trailer but I would take extra steps to support, block and level before the stringers are removed and if possible do one at a time. The last thing you want is to create a warp, twist or hook causing problems later. I wish I had pictures to explain what I have done over the years but I dont. Just take your time and it will all come to you. If it dont feel right or look right it wont be in the end. Best of luck to you.



                              I can kind of see what you mean. Does anyone have any pictures or can confirm my rebuild lay up in my previous post?
                              -Raul
                              from Tampa, FL

                              :::Under Construction:::
                              1985 Mako 254 - Twin Suzuki 200s in the future
                              http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...rglass-squot-s

                              1987 Mako 171 Angler - 2017 Suzuki 115
                              http://forum.classicmako.com/forum/c...ngler-splashed

                              1987 Mako 21B - 2013 Suzuki 150 4 stroke For Sale Soon

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