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  • 254 rigging problem

    Hi Guys,

    I got this note today from my rig shop.

    all input would be appreciated. I am putting a bracket on and did not expect this,

    "The original tie bar is not long enough since the modifications to the transom. After trying to find an approx.40" bar with no luck, I talked to tech support at Sea Star and they said with the existing cylinder on the motor now (model hc5342) they don't make a 40" for this cylinder and they think if one was made, it would bend. (the existing one is approx. 26").

    Sea star tech support said they have a tournament series that would work, however, this would require getting a new cylinder, hardware kit and tie bar, which from our vendors is approx. $2,000.00. The model numbers are HC685 for cylinder, HA6802 for hardware kit and HO6823 for tie bar."

    Thanks
    Chicago& Racine[br]1983 254 twin 225\'s http:///2540picasaweb.google.com/VJChigas2?feat=directlink[br]1988 285 twin 300\'s http://picasaweb.google.com/VJChigas/285?feat=directlink

  • #2
    I am not sure why the tie bar would have to be different. did they space the motors in correctly on the bracket? Did you change motors? I assume you have twins to need a 40" bar.
    [br]1984 Mako 224[br]1977 Mako 15[br]Clermont, Florida- [br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=37212 -Rewire[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40627 -Tank/Misc[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=58615 - Aft Box removal

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    • #3
      I had a motor well, Closed the transom and added a bracket.
      Chicago& Racine[br]1983 254 twin 225\'s http:///2540picasaweb.google.com/VJChigas2?feat=directlink[br]1988 285 twin 300\'s http://picasaweb.google.com/VJChigas/285?feat=directlink

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      • #4
        something definitely seems wrong. How can the spacing change from 26 to 40 just by adding a bracket assuming the motors and steering system are all the same and just moving back to the bracket, the width dimensions should be exactly the same. Did you change anything other than adding a bracket? If everything is the same, then the only thing you would need is longer hoses. Can you post a before and after pic?
        1978 Mako 25 - Blind Hog
        1985 Mako 20c - sold
        Fort Walton Beach, FL
        http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=42841

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        • #5
          40" center to center sounds like it belongs on a small power catamaran

          cant recall seeing anything over 30" center to center for a v hull

          the new style tie bars do not mount to the motor they mount to the cylinder pivot bracket and are WAY shorter

          my motors are 28" center to center and tie bar is about 20" long
          76 25 \"Aenigma\"[br]73 17[br]Richland/Long Beach, MS[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14182[br][br]17 project[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=56176

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          • #6
            Something is odd. What size are your motors? The tie bar goes from center to center, so even new 4 strokes would be 28". Why the 40"?

            I know the max HP on the system you have now I believe is 450.
            \'07 Mako 19 bay, sold[br]\'76 Mako 21, sold[br]\'77 Mako 21, dump[br]\'77 Mako 22, sold[br]\'80 Mako 23 WA, sold[br]\'82 Mako 21, sold[br]\'85 Mako 254 currently[br]\'78 J24 USA 292 (sold)[br]\'05 Melges 32 racing sailboat

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            • #7
              Interested to see how this pans out... Post a couple pics. I would imagine the motor mounting part of the bracket is about 40" or less wide. Somethings funky.
              Tequesta,Fl[br]Work in progress \'77 25[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=53441&whichpage=1[br]

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              • #8
                Will do, I ordered the parts that they specified,

                I did find better pricing on line. About 1350$ delivered.

                Waiting for UPS
                Chicago& Racine[br]1983 254 twin 225\'s http:///2540picasaweb.google.com/VJChigas2?feat=directlink[br]1988 285 twin 300\'s http://picasaweb.google.com/VJChigas/285?feat=directlink

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                • #9
                  Will do, I ordered the parts that they specified,

                  I did find better pricing on line. About 1350$ delivered.

                  Waiting for UPS
                  Chicago& Racine[br]1983 254 twin 225\'s http:///2540picasaweb.google.com/VJChigas2?feat=directlink[br]1988 285 twin 300\'s http://picasaweb.google.com/VJChigas/285?feat=directlink

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                  • #10
                    I am still finding this hard to believe.

                    I have a 254 with twins on a bracket. I have the HC5342. My tie bar is like 26" long before the screw on ends and works perfectly.
                    \'07 Mako 19 bay, sold[br]\'76 Mako 21, sold[br]\'77 Mako 21, dump[br]\'77 Mako 22, sold[br]\'80 Mako 23 WA, sold[br]\'82 Mako 21, sold[br]\'85 Mako 254 currently[br]\'78 J24 USA 292 (sold)[br]\'05 Melges 32 racing sailboat

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                    • #11
                      I am still finding this hard to believe.

                      I have a 254 with twins on a bracket. I have the HC5342. My tie bar is like 26" long before the screw on ends and works perfectly.
                      \'07 Mako 19 bay, sold[br]\'76 Mako 21, sold[br]\'77 Mako 21, dump[br]\'77 Mako 22, sold[br]\'80 Mako 23 WA, sold[br]\'82 Mako 21, sold[br]\'85 Mako 254 currently[br]\'78 J24 USA 292 (sold)[br]\'05 Melges 32 racing sailboat

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                      • #12
                        I'm thinking it's a triple engine bracket with twins mounted on it.
                        1977 mako 23

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                        • #13
                          quote:


                          Originally posted by StriperFighter


                          I'm thinking it's a triple engine bracket with twins mounted on it.



                          No reason to put the motors that far apart.

                          Or is this the Mako 254 with triple yamahas on it?
                          \'07 Mako 19 bay, sold[br]\'76 Mako 21, sold[br]\'77 Mako 21, dump[br]\'77 Mako 22, sold[br]\'80 Mako 23 WA, sold[br]\'82 Mako 21, sold[br]\'85 Mako 254 currently[br]\'78 J24 USA 292 (sold)[br]\'05 Melges 32 racing sailboat

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