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  • 1984 Mako 254 - Logan's Run - Phase One

    Quick Upate- My hat goes off more than ever to those who regularly keep their project progress and pics updated! Too much for me to juggle too keep up with it. With the winter and a recent shoulder surgery underway I decided to get caught up with some pics and progress. I'm going to update by areas. First will be my console rebuild. It's been learning by doing and a constant firehose... But little by little I'm making progress....


    Original Post-
    Hello to everyone out there. First of all thank you to so many who spend so much time documenting and assisting on this site. What an awesome community! Ive finally made it back to the States, after way too long overseas, and am ready to start a long awaited 254 project.

    Quick background on my 254. I bought it back in 2005 near Biloxi, MS; however, shes sat tarped since 2013 (been outside the US with no way to give her the love she needs []). She survived Katrina and has spent a lot of time in Gautier, MS (home to a few of you guys) and now resides at FT Benning, GA (Columbus area). Shes seen some different bodies of water- A lot of time in the Gulf working the oil rigs from the Horseshoes to Ram Powell. I spent a couple years running between Miami and Key West and then drug her to the West Coast for awhile and fished from Big Sur to the Farallon Islands to Point Reyes. When I bought her she needed some work that I never had time to do (aft fish boxes were all busted up from POs attempt to improve insulation with more foam). PO put on the bracket and closed up the transom. Ive been pleased with both of those however stress cracks are noticeable now.

    My experience with construction / repair work is heavy on the wood metal automotive side. Not a lot of first hand experience with fiberglass. Ive read a few standard boat repair / fiberglass repair books but all of my confidence comes from this site. Ive seen too many people do awesome work and lots of people helping along the way, so please tell me like it is if Im overthinking something, about to make a major mistake, or should simply be doing something a different way etc. What might appear obvious to most of you is not part of my wheelhouse.



    To Do--

    Complete paint job inside and out

    Build custom transom storage and livewell. Im planning on a mix and match of mrdelgado, phin, and William Dean Srs transoms / livewells. (Mostly complete pics to follow)

    Cut out aft corner boxes (done)

    Remove in-floor livewell (done)

    Level off aft floor near transom (Done, however did it a little different, pics to follow)

    Replace pie plate bilge access with something very similar to Williams Sr's project (Done)

    Open up side rod storage as mrdelgado and others have done (Done)

    Remove main tank and inspect etc (hopefully not replace) (Tank removed and replaced)

    Replace all fuel lines (Partially complete)

    Remove front fuel tank; batteries moved to under console (inside front tank area) (Tank out, battery storage still under construction)

    Cut out and rebuild aft fish boxes to include new hatches- very similar to what wolfie did (Change of plans, repairs in process)

    Extend bow center fish box (same as William Sr project) (Postponed)

    Re-run new and improved rigging tube systemn (Complete)

    Complete re-wire / lighting

    New electronics installation

    Seal up unused thru hulls (Complete)

    Fill in ping pong scuppers (Complete)

    Raise / remodel original console (I think it is the original console) (Mostly complete)

    Re-upholster boat cushions and add bolster cushion around complete inside (still thinking about this one)

    T-Top repair (Complete)

    Improved T-Top to deck mounting

    Install seachest (Under construction)

    And all those other wonderful projects that pop up unexpectedly in the build!

    Last edited by logansrun88; 01-03-2020, 01:13 PM.
    84\' Mako 254- Logan\'s Run (Twin Yamaha 150 HPDIs)[br]Columbus, GA (for now...)[br]Tigerfish caught in Zimbabwe, Africa[br]Current Project- Mako 254 http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59250[br] [br]

  • #2
    Here are some pics-



    Planning on something similar to this-





    Can see some of the stress cracks down the starboard side of the closed transom



    Damaged fish boxes






    84\' Mako 254- Logan\'s Run (Twin Yamaha 150 HPDIs)[br]Columbus, GA (for now...)[br]Tigerfish caught in Zimbabwe, Africa[br]Current Project- Mako 254 http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59250[br] [br]

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    • #3
      I think you have your phases backward. [] Transom and re-core should come first. No point in messing up that nice paint later. How about some pictures of your bracket and transom setup?
      1978 Mako 25 - Blind Hog
      1985 Mako 20c - sold
      Fort Walton Beach, FL
      http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=42841

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      • #4
        And this is where I am now. I've de-rigged most of the boat and pulled up the front and main fuel tank covers. A look at that foam and reality quickly set in. I haven't started to remove foam yet... hopefully start Friday.

        Front Tank



        Main Tank


        84\' Mako 254- Logan\'s Run (Twin Yamaha 150 HPDIs)[br]Columbus, GA (for now...)[br]Tigerfish caught in Zimbabwe, Africa[br]Current Project- Mako 254 http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59250[br] [br]

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        • #5
          I put my batteries in the same place as you are talking about. I removed the lip for that fuel tank area and made it storage. It is nice, but hard to access on a regular basis. Makes me wish I had a flip up console in the front for access like some boats came with and some have done.

          The only thing I would recommend that I did not do is figure out a way to drain that area.
          \'07 Mako 19 bay, sold[br]\'76 Mako 21, sold[br]\'77 Mako 21, dump[br]\'77 Mako 22, sold[br]\'80 Mako 23 WA, sold[br]\'82 Mako 21, sold[br]\'85 Mako 254 currently[br]\'78 J24 USA 292 (sold)[br]\'05 Melges 32 racing sailboat

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          • #6
            This is exactly what I have drawn out for my boat with the corners squared off and a livewell in the center. I am putting two doors on either side of the livewell for additional bilge access as well.

            are those original fuel tanks?
            quote:


            Originally posted by logansrun88


            Here are some pics-

            Planning on something similar to this-




            1978 Mako 25 - Blind Hog
            1985 Mako 20c - sold
            Fort Walton Beach, FL
            http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=42841

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            • #7
              Im the last person to tell anyone how to go about their project, but...I would definitely consider addressing that transom and recore before you paint.

              I called my thread quick and dirty because the plan was to do just the bare minimum to make the boat usable for a while until I got around to a restoration. Once I got through all the expense and work of painting mine, and being so pleased with the results, I took on more, and more, and more. Over 2 years in the making and Im almost done (for now) and I have a few regrets.

              I definitely would have leveled out the deck by the tranom and redid the bilge access, as you have planned, as well as filled in some old holes that I planned to just cover up with various fake hardware, etc.

              My transom was good as it had been rebuilt and sealed well in 2003. My gunnels and bow area are not so good. I had a slight soft spot around the console that I decided I wasnt willing to live with, however. I did what I could, drilling hole and injecting thickened resin to address these issues for a while but there was no way I was messing up this paint job now.

              That crack along the corner where the battery box meets the transom doesnt look so hot to me. By the sound of phase 1, youre going to have the access you will need to do the transom from the inside anyway. Chances are, youre going to find out whether or not your transom is shot when you get to filling in your unused scuppers anyway.

              Good luck and have fun. My project has been a blast for me and now that the punchlist is getting smaller and smaller Im finding myself thinkking about what Im going to do when I roll the old 20er back in the shop while keeping my eyes open for that right 79 23 footer that got me hooked on this site all those years ago!
              Dave [br]Woodbury Heights, NJ[br]\'73 Mako 20[br]\'85 Mako 254[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=55336[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=52586

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              • #8
                Thanks for the tip gents. My primary reason for waiting on the transom was I didn't really feel I needed to do it "right away". I'll take some close ups of the transom. PO used two 3/4" ply (I think) and it still seems really stout. I've hung on those motors tried to rock them and haven't seen the transom budge. I see those cracks.... and that does have me a little worried. Good point Kings Pointer, I'll get a good idea when I cut out those corner boxes. Maybe the transom will bump to Phase I... ughhh (I want to get back on the water!!).

                As for the deck, I don't have any soft spots right now and put it down for phase II because I figured I'll eventually need to do it. That said, if I've pulled up half the deck to do what I need to do anyway... We'll see... What'll probably happen is I'll be watching Sailor's thread and see how easy it all looks.... and decide to go ahead and recore [].

                Sailor- I'm not sure if the tanks are original or not. Those tabs to secure the main tank aren't original are they? I'll hopefully get them out this weekend, clean them up and be able to tell.

                Jeep Guy, thanks for the tips on the batteries. I'll add that into my design. Do you have a link to your project? I like to check it out if you do.

                KP-Quick and Dirty is exactly what I was thinking when I started getting ready for this. Are any of your photos viewable anywhere else? I see theyre stuck in the photobucket fiasco.
                84\' Mako 254- Logan\'s Run (Twin Yamaha 150 HPDIs)[br]Columbus, GA (for now...)[br]Tigerfish caught in Zimbabwe, Africa[br]Current Project- Mako 254 http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59250[br] [br]

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                • #9
                  http://s9.photobucket.com/user/david_monk1/library/

                  Give that a shot... or the google chrome extension temporary fix. Other than that, I only have a couple of random pics on the mako boat owners and my own Facebook pages.

                  I run apple products at home and on my phone and the extension doesnt work for me.

                  One of these days Ill go through and update my thread but I fear its only a matter of time until all the third party hosting sites shut us down. If theres anything in particular youd like to see, Id be glad to try and convert that photo to Imgur, provided I can find it.
                  Dave [br]Woodbury Heights, NJ[br]\'73 Mako 20[br]\'85 Mako 254[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=55336[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=52586

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                  • #10
                    That worked. I'll check out those photos soon. Thanks.
                    84\' Mako 254- Logan\'s Run (Twin Yamaha 150 HPDIs)[br]Columbus, GA (for now...)[br]Tigerfish caught in Zimbabwe, Africa[br]Current Project- Mako 254 http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59250[br] [br]

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                    • #11
                      Here are some transom and bracket pics. This was installed by PO. Obviously there are cracks around the entire transom inside the boat.

                      Sailor, PO told me he filled in the transom open area (like yours is now) with non structural foam. When I knock around on it I hear the solid transom and then the foamed upper center. It's worked great for me thus far... (Aside from the fact that I need to rebuild my transom [])




























                      84\' Mako 254- Logan\'s Run (Twin Yamaha 150 HPDIs)[br]Columbus, GA (for now...)[br]Tigerfish caught in Zimbabwe, Africa[br]Current Project- Mako 254 http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59250[br] [br]

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                      • #12
                        Forgot a pic of showing the thickness of the transom. Still need to investigate further regarding how structurally sound it is.


                        84\' Mako 254- Logan\'s Run (Twin Yamaha 150 HPDIs)[br]Columbus, GA (for now...)[br]Tigerfish caught in Zimbabwe, Africa[br]Current Project- Mako 254 http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59250[br] [br]

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                        • #13
                          I took a sharpened machete and ran it along the entire tank and also along the coffin edges. Then hooked up the harbor freight jack and then called in my reinforcements. She popped right up. I'm pretty sure I'm working with an aftermarket tank that PO put in.

                          Reserve tank is going to be a bit trickier. Its fits like a glove inside its coffin, not much room to do anything with it. I attacked it the same way but she's not wanting to come out as easy. I did get one end up about an inch so she's free, just vacuumed sucked in I think. I should have it out tomorrow.

                          There was a little water in the coffin. Foam at the bottom of the coffin was water logged. I noticed there are 4, 3in holes in each corner of the coffin. What are those for? Can water freely enter / depart those holes into the bilge?




                          84\' Mako 254- Logan\'s Run (Twin Yamaha 150 HPDIs)[br]Columbus, GA (for now...)[br]Tigerfish caught in Zimbabwe, Africa[br]Current Project- Mako 254 http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59250[br] [br]

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                          • #14
                            Couple questions. I'm going to cut out the aft battery boxes and plan to seal up those worthless pie plate bilge access points. I want to keep the hatch holes from the battery boxes as I might incorporate them as pitch wells in my transom. Any suggestions on where my cut lines should be?

                            Also, the fact that I'm going to pretty much raise the aft deck at the transom and seal up those pie plates, would it be best just to cut that entire rectangle out? Or leave it and just raise and level off the floor? It would be nice to have it out of there to have nice access to the bilge as I move forward.... Not sure what the best move is.

                            From what I've read and seen on here most guys suggest leaving a bit of material so you have something to tab into when you put it all back together. Should I use that rule of thumb as I'm cutting things up from here on out?





                            I noticed I forgot to post this pic of the transom from inside. Shows cracks well...


                            84\' Mako 254- Logan\'s Run (Twin Yamaha 150 HPDIs)[br]Columbus, GA (for now...)[br]Tigerfish caught in Zimbabwe, Africa[br]Current Project- Mako 254 http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59250[br] [br]

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                            • #15
                              The holes are where the factory injected the foam. there are more under the teak step pads on the gunwale as well. Why not just build your raised deck on top of the existing deck if it's good?
                              1978 Mako 25 - Blind Hog
                              1985 Mako 20c - sold
                              Fort Walton Beach, FL
                              http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=42841

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