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  • 261 restoration, full transom and bracket

    Back in February I sold my 231 and about a week later I found a 261 project to take on. This will be her story:

    https://i.imgur.com/wFwa05M.jpg

    The previous owner repowered with twin 175 Suzukis in 2016, a couple weeks later the boat sank at the dock. Smells fishy to me but I cant speculate. He cashed his insurance check on the motors. Then began trying to get them running again. The starboard motor was pickled and worked. The port motor was shipped to North Carolina and rebuilt. He got the boat together and tried to sell it for $40k. Shortly after it was listed the starboard motor dropped a valve. He had it disassembled and rather than rebuild it decided to sell it. Thats where I come in.

    https://i.imgur.com/Mdt3dAw.jpg

    I pulled the motors off and dropped the starboard motor off to outboard clinic in palm city. Jerry is in the process of sourcing parts to rebuild it now.

    https://i.imgur.com/2EbjZVr.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/CQcxAEO.jpg

    I started cutting the rotted transom out, and I cut out the recessed floor to raise it up flush. She will be converted to full transom and a fiberglass bracket added.

    https://i.imgur.com/CYLF8JN.jpg

    I pulled the ttop, console, coffin lid and fuel tank - which had 3 holes. Because she sank I decided it would be wise to cut the coffin out and remove all of the wet foam.

    https://i.imgur.com/rYxUALo.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/cmPjDaB.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/eexuAzJ.jpg

    So Ive got most of the outer skin of the transom off. I cut the base of the console off to narrow the console. I had welding world make me a new 200g tank and coal tar it. Ive got the foam dug out from halfway under the forward fishbox all the way back. The anchor locker drain is leaking so I need to dig more foam out and then Ill start reforming and reinstall the coffin. Im cutting the bottom of the coffin out to get the tank lower and Im also moving it forward 16 inches. Im planning on fiberglassing th coffin lid back on after I run some livewell plumbing up through it to a leaning post livewell setup.

    The fianc has been pretty supportive of the project so Ive made decent progress in the 6 weeks Ive had it. I had hoped to work on it this weekend but my sciatica has been acting up and I fell over yesterday when my left leg went limp. My left calf is still numb and Im having trouble walking so Ive got time to do research and online shop as well as start a thread on here. Hopefully the chiropractor will get this sorted out tomorrow and X-rays will rule out needing surgery.

    As much as I hate crawling under the deck digging out foam I hate being stuck in bed or on the couch more
    1989 Mako 261[br]SOLD - 1987 231 restore/rebuild http://classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=46836&whichpage=1[br]

  • #2
    hell yeah! I looked at a 261 project but man those are BIG boats, wasn't quite ready for that level. If ever get the bug to move up to a boat with twins that's what I'll be looking for though. Going to really be a beast with a bracket!

    hope you can get back to it soon!

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    • #3
      Man your going to need alot of foam. I did the same thing to my 1978 21 and used 10 gallons of foam total. My front compartment drain was broke all the way in the front from when it was originally foamed in.[!]

      I ran all my drains and rigging tubes with schedule 40 PVC pipe and clamped it inside of the stringers. I also moved my tank forward by about 20" to help out with the ride since I have an enclosed transom and 30" Armstrong bracket. Good luck with your project.
      1978 Mako 21[br]Schneider [br]Butler, PA

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      • #4
        Cool project! Just an FYI, if you're hosting your images on Imgur anyway, you can direct link them using the "BB Code" link on the full desktop site.
        Texas[br]\'76 Mako 23- A work in progress[br]

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        • #5
          If Im using the imgur app on my phone is there anyway to the B.B. code?
          1989 Mako 261[br]SOLD - 1987 231 restore/rebuild http://classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=46836&whichpage=1[br]

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          • #6
            Great work so far! Looking forward to following it! Would love to see the console project, cutting off the base and mounting it directly to the deck? Using angle and screws from the inside to fasten it or glassing it?

            To post from your phone on imgur use Google chrome. In the top right corner of chrome there is a (desktop site check box).



            Then when you are on imgur you should see the desktop version. No need to resize pictures upload just scroll down and click on (huge thumbnail) then copy.the BBC code and paste to your post.


            Fort Lauderdale, FL[br]1990 231 Mako[br]1998 Keywest 1720[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=48918[br]http://classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=57912[br][/url]

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            • #7
              iPhone doesnt give me those options... I might have to start posting at work.
              1989 Mako 261[br]SOLD - 1987 231 restore/rebuild http://classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=46836&whichpage=1[br]

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              • #8
                I just post my pics up on Flicker then copy and post the link on here.
                1978 Mako 21[br]Schneider [br]Butler, PA

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                • #9
                  quote:


                  Originally posted by 231Mike


                  iPhone doesnt give me those options... I might have to start posting at work.



                  I email the picture I took to myself and select medium for the option to resize. Then I select that image to upload to imgur. Kind of a PIA but it works on an iPhone/iPad.
                  Dave [br]Woodbury Heights, NJ[br]\'73 Mako 20[br]\'85 Mako 254[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=55336[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=52586

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                  • #10
                    I am working on a 1990 261 and am planning on pretty much the same modifications, closed transom with a floatation bracket. I have my old tank and tank coffin out. How did you decide on moving the tank forward 16"? I will be putting the new tank back in soon and was wondering how far forward to move the tank?

                    Btw the PVC T below the front fish box on my 261 was cracked during manufacturing and water had been leaking into the bottom of the boat its whole life. I am running new plumbing all the way up to the anchor locker but had to cut out the bottom of the front fish box to get there.

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                    • #11
                      I checked and repaired/replaced the wire chases and drain tubes below deck. I cut the floor of the anchor locker out and am making it flush with the deck with an above deck drain. The forward fishbox I installed a gemlux livewell drain with 7 of bilge hose attached to a new 1-1/4 pvc center drain tube. I figure having bilge hose in between will take vibration and keep the pvc from cracking down the road. I am putting the coffin walls in but leaving the floor out, I will glass the walls down to the bottom of the hull. This will allow me to set the tank lower in the hull both helping with roll and allowing me to use Armstrong hatches on the coffin lid. I moved the tank 16 forward because that puts the fill and vent connections directly under the coffin lid access with the lid mounted backwards(rotated 180 degrees). If I went any further because my tank was already made I would have to cut the floor and/or modify the tank.

                      I will be talking with a&j about building my bracket, they built the bracket for my 231 and did a good job. The 261 bracket will be built to my specs, giving me an extra wide tub and a couple extra degrees of angle on the motor mounting surface to allow for more stern lift if needed. My tab pockets will be filled in and 18x12 Bennett bolts installed. They are lifetime warranty and that size should provide more than enough trim adjustment.

                      The rear floor is being raised flush with the rest of the deck. I am glassing over the drain channel around the deck and filling it with arjay. I will also glass the coffin lid in after all of the foam is poured and sealed. Up front I tend to use the seating as coolers when booze cruising so I will be insulating them. I havent exactly decided how although I think arjay would be easiest but I dont know how much insulation it would provide. I will be building a leaning post and livewell setup similar to what the larger b models came with and mounting a set of llebroc style seats to it. My center console has been narrowed 5 inches by removing the mounting base and the windshield removed. A hardtop is in the plans but I dont know if it will be a diy or if Ill fork over the cash to have someone build it.

                      I will try to start adding photos
                      1989 Mako 261[br]SOLD - 1987 231 restore/rebuild http://classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=46836&whichpage=1[br]

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                      • #12
                        A&J is currently building my bracket for my Mako project. The wait is killing me!!!

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                        • #13
                          Not sure how well it would insulate but arjay is a lot heavier then foam for insulating.

                          Any updates on your project?
                          1978 Mako 25 - Blind Hog
                          1985 Mako 20c - sold
                          Fort Walton Beach, FL
                          http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=42841

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                          • #14
                            Not sure how well it would insulate but arjay is a lot heavier then foam for insulating.

                            Any updates on your project?
                            1978 Mako 25 - Blind Hog
                            1985 Mako 20c - sold
                            Fort Walton Beach, FL
                            http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=42841

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                            • #15
                              Sailor- I think that would help as well. Weight in the bow could be a good thing. I dont know how well foam would pour into such a narrow space, whereas arjay flows very well. The obvious disadvantage is arjay wont insulate as well. I used to be able to put 100 pounds of ice in the front of my 231 and it was good for a day without any insulation. I think if I fill the void and add a latch and seal to the hatch it would last significantly longer.
                              1989 Mako 261[br]SOLD - 1987 231 restore/rebuild http://classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=46836&whichpage=1[br]

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