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  • Need some opinions between a 25 and a 224

    Hello all. I have been lurking around for some time and am a member over on THT as well. I'm on the hunt for my next boat and I've been doing as much research as possible on these two hulls, I'm in need of some experienced opinions to help sway me and/or enlighten me (I'm looking at two quite different boats here, I understand that).

    First is a 1978 25. The 25 is in good overall shape, both tanks replaced 3-4 years ago, powered by a 98' Merc 250 efi. Transom looks to be good as are the decks, interior just looks a little dated but gel coat/exterior is very good.

    The other is an 87' 224 which is all original, original 87' 200 Yammie, however was a freshwater boat up until the last 2 years and is super clean. Deck and transom said to be very solid. Both boats run great.

    My dilemma is that the 224 is a 4-5 hour drive away and I can't just go see it. The 25 I've already seen in person and can attest to it's condition. What direction would you gentlemen be leaning based on everything, I'd hate to make that road trip for nothing. I love the lines and design of both hulls, love that the 224 was a freshwater boat and is real clean, love the size of the 25 and newer power. Price is about on par, what do you guys think? I boat out of Jones Inlet on Long Island.

    Here's the links...

    https://longisland.craigslist.org/bo...533836775.html

    https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/bo...521813134.html

  • #2
    25 is a bigger feeling boat than the 224, and will have a slightly better ride.

    25 is also more likely to have deck and transom rot issues based on its age...but 224 is also susceptible.

    25 does look like it needs more updating aside from the motor.

    I never put much stock in the the "fresh water only" stories myself.

    I wouldnt drive 5 hours for that 224 if the 25 guy is willing to make a deal and you like the boat.
    ROGUE I[br]1978 235 CC[br]Newburyport, MA[br]ROGUE II[br]1987 17\' Montauk[br]Camden, ME[br]

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    • #3
      quote:


      Originally posted by Justin


      25 is a bigger feeling boat than the 224, and will have a slightly better ride.


      25 is also more likely to have deck and transom rot issues based on its age...but 224 is also susceptible.

      25 does look like it needs more updating aside from the motor.

      I never put much stock in the the "fresh water only" stories myself.

      I wouldnt drive 5 hours for that 224 if the 25 guy is willing to make a deal and you like the boat.


      I was able to see the 25 in person and can confirm the deck is solid throughout. Transom seemed in pretty good shape as well, had some minor cracking starting just by the top edge of the motor bracket on either side and just some gel coat spider-ing in the corners. I bounced on the lower unit and couldn't detect any flex, pounding about also sounded dry and solid.

      I would be getting either boat prepared to do some refit work in the future, heck I ripped apart half my old Aquasport last year, just want to get some enjoyment out in the short term (2-4 years). The overall cleanliness of the 224 is what's really appealing to me, plus love how deep it appears to be for a 22...looks like a good candidate to slap a good used ox66 on her...

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      • #4
        The deck is surely wet and will likely rot eventually, because the way Mako screwed the consoles into cored deck wasnt the greatest.

        Sounds like you're leaning toward the 224 -- let us know how you make out either way.
        ROGUE I[br]1978 235 CC[br]Newburyport, MA[br]ROGUE II[br]1987 17\' Montauk[br]Camden, ME[br]

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        • #5
          quote:


          Originally posted by Justin



          I never put much stock in the the "fresh water only" stories myself.


          The earth is 71% water, 3% of that is fresh water, and 95% of listed boats are freshwater use only []

          Another great overused term, barn finds and garage finds...

          How do you plan on using the boat? with a growing family, beaching it and relaxing only nice days? or are you going 200 miles off shore to slay monsters in 5-8' seas?

          I'm biased towards the 25 so im just throwing out questions
          [br]Michael R. Delgado[br]1972 Mako 22[br]http://classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15745[br]1976 Mako 25[br]http://classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18013&SearchTerms=mako,25[br]

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          • #6
            quote:


            Originally posted by mrdelgado


            The earth is 71% water, 3% of that is fresh water, and 95% of listed boats are freshwater use only []

            Another great overused term, barn finds and garage finds...

            How do you plan on using the boat? with a growing family, beaching it and relaxing only nice days? or are you going 200 miles off shore to slay monsters in 5-8' seas?

            I'm biased towards the 25 so im just throwing out questions


            According to the owner when he bought it last season, he bought it off the original owner's friend. The boat was still titled in Vermont when seller bought it, said it was used to fish up on Lake Champlain, never bottom painted until last year. I know I know, words are just words.

            I do a mix of everything with my boats. Some beach and bar days, some 50 mile runs out to fish. Family is limited to the girlfriend and friends at the moment (god willing it stays that way), will venture out on some snotty days but nothing that I wouldn't want to spend the whole day out in unless I got caught in it. I know the 25 can handle a beating, but hey, don't all Makos? []

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            • #7
              quote:


              Originally posted by Justin


              The deck is surely wet and will likely rot eventually, because the way Mako screwed the consoles into cored deck wasnt the greatest.


              Sounds like you're leaning toward the 224 -- let us know how you make out either way.


              There is not much wood in the deck of the 224, and the 2 part console alleviates typical mounting issues.



              You could certainly debate pros and cons of each, and all comes down to preference and budget. I love my 224 and have gotten almost 13 years out of, but I do find myself wanting something bigger. My reasoning for wanting bigger is family, I've never really be concerned about the 224 handling anything I've thrown at it.
              \'93 241 https://forum.classicmako.com/forum/...etting-started
              \'82 224 - Mobile, AL Gone but NEVER Forgotten - http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=31915

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              • #8
                Chuck,

                I may be mistaken, but I dont believe Mako changed to composite coring until later in the 80s...the shaded area in that manual simply shows the plywood. The non-shaded is balsa. That was the case with mine...
                ROGUE I[br]1978 235 CC[br]Newburyport, MA[br]ROGUE II[br]1987 17\' Montauk[br]Camden, ME[br]

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                • #9
                  I love my 224. enough I re-powered and made some major cosmetic changes. As Chuck said it will take you where you want. I had mine out 45 miles in the stream on Saturday. Eats up the chop. Now the 25 will do the same with more room and potential for twins. I have fished several times in a 254. Great platform and my 224 fits inside it. it all comes down to preference.
                  [br]1984 Mako 224[br]1977 Mako 15[br]Clermont, Florida- [br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=37212 -Rewire[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40627 -Tank/Misc[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=58615 - Aft Box removal

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                  • #10
                    Fifty miles off shore in a 22 or a 25 ft boat. I prefer the 25 especially if it had twins on it. Jest sayin.

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                    • #11
                      They both look like they will need attention sooner then later. Deck, switches, electrical electronics etc. I am not a fan of the aft section of that 251. However if I could have either one for $5k I would go 25. Put another 10K into it and you have a solid platform for years to come.
                      [br]1984 Mako 224[br]1977 Mako 15[br]Clermont, Florida- [br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=37212 -Rewire[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40627 -Tank/Misc[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=58615 - Aft Box removal

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                      • #12
                        With regard to that I would just suggest making sure the paperwork is in order. I've noticed that the registration reads "Nontransferable". With the age of the boat, I believe there is no title and a transferable registration would be the only legal proof of ownership. I don't know for certain, as I'm in CT, but I'd check before pulling the trigger.
                        1973 Mako 19[br]

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                        • #13
                          That's the way I'm looking at it. Either one is going to get a whole bunch of attention within the next 2-5 years. I totally rewired my Aquasport and half of my Grady before it, not afraid of tackling those projects. Started getting familiarized doing various glassing projects on the AS, so becoming more and more comfortable with it

                          As far as size, of course getting stuck way out in the snot will be more bearable in the 25, though the 224 based on her specs should handle real well for the size I'd think.

                          That's interesting though about the composite coring, were they using composite in any decks or transoms or just platforms, bulkheads, and gunnels etc...

                          In any event here's the album of pictures I snapped for some light bathroom browsing. It seems most feedback is saying if you have the means to do it, long terms I'll be happier with the 25? This is tough.

                          http://s34.photobucket.com/user/SSKd...rary/Mako%2025

                          You guys are great, appreciate your enthusiasm and feedback.

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                          • #14
                            quote:


                            Originally posted by 89wheelinyj


                            With regard to that I would just suggest making sure the paperwork is in order. I've noticed that the registration reads "Nontransferable". With the age of the boat, I believe there is no title and a transferable registration would be the only legal proof of ownership. I don't know for certain, as I'm in CT, but I'd check before pulling the trigger.



                            Good catch, I did notice that. Thats an important not so little detail isnt it? Currently awaiting an answer on that.

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                            • #15
                              A couple questions.

                              1. Are you trailering or wet slipping? 22 for trailering & has one vs 25 kept in water & has no trailer.

                              2. Inshore or offshore? 22 inshore 25 offshore.

                              3. How fat is your fuel wallet? Neither motor is stingy on fuel.

                              4. How long do you intend to keep her? The 22 will need a tank & both will need motors.

                              I have a '84 - 228, which is a 224 hull with a cuddy. I love the way it rides with the 22* V.

                              224 with 200 hp is fine. Not sure 250 is enough for a 25'
                              1984 Mako 228 w/ 175hp E-Tec [br]1983 SeaRay 26\' Sundancer w/ 454 Big Block spinning Volvo DuoProps (Sold)[br]1989 Wahoo 17\' CC w/ 88hp Evinrude (vacationing in Key West)[br]

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