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  • Advice Needed.__78 Mako25 at the Crossroads

    Gentleman & Ladies,

    I am in need of assistance to make an informed and rational decision. I have a 1978 25B that has the original transom (With aluminum reinforcement plate installed). She is not showing any signs of failure, but needs a new transom. In contemplating a potential transom rebuild I really want to remove the aft fish box and extend the deck back to the original splash well. To further complicate the decision process, yesterday I was in the boat cleaning debris off the deck from Hurricane Nate (Thankfully a nonevent) and discovered a soft spot in the deck to port of the console. With that now potentially requiring attention now, does it make sense to invest that much of a renovation/repair. (I do not have the time or expertise for something potentially this intensive) and an executive decision needs to be made. Also for those with an opinion: does anyone have a WAG as to the cost of a properly restored/repaired transom? As well as cost to re-deck? Any input is greatly appreciated.







  • #2
    Professional prices?

    I'd guess $5k for transom, same for deck.

    Could be off, but that's a ballpark.
    ROGUE I[br]1978 235 CC[br]Newburyport, MA[br]ROGUE II[br]1987 17\' Montauk[br]Camden, ME[br]

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    • #3
      [quote]Originally posted by Justin


      Professional prices?

      I'd guess $5k for transom, same for deck.

      Could be off, but that's a ballpark.

      Yes. Price inquiry would be for professional services/repair.

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      • #4
        I would agree the $5K for transom give or take a grand would be accurate. Now to remove the live-well, rebuild floor and customize the look you may be adding another $2K. The soft spot can be a lot of issues. these floors are mainly supported with foam. I am sure over time water got in there and rotted out the core. You could pull console and re-deck or you can cut a access hole and fill with expandable closed cell 4-lb foam. Then re-glass access and apply non-skid. There will be no soft spot left
        [br]1984 Mako 224[br]1977 Mako 15[br]Clermont, Florida- [br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=37212 -Rewire[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40627 -Tank/Misc[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=58615 - Aft Box removal

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        • #5
          Bottom line is your floor is wet. Probably everywhere. You may have isolated wet spots only, but the console screws leak to into the deck and moisture wicks after years with no opportunity to dry.

          So you could try to just patch the soft spot, but my guess is when you start cutting, you'll find more rot than just the soft spot.

          I just re-did my deck, and it was a ton of labor. I stand by my guess that a deck re-coring, professionally, would be $5k or potentially more.

          Now, if you do the labor on transom and deck yourself, you save $$, but that wasnt your question.
          ROGUE I[br]1978 235 CC[br]Newburyport, MA[br]ROGUE II[br]1987 17\' Montauk[br]Camden, ME[br]

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          • #6
            quote:


            Originally posted by Justin


            Bottom line is your floor is wet. Probably everywhere. You may have isolated wet spots only, but the console screws leak to into the deck and moisture wicks after years with no opportunity to dry.


            So you could try to just patch the soft spot, but my guess is when you start cutting, you'll find more rot than just the soft spot.

            I just re-did my deck, and it was a ton of labor. I stand by my guess that a deck re-coring, professionally, would be $5k or potentially more.

            Now, if you do the labor on transom and deck yourself, you save $$, but that wasnt your question.


            Ultimately I trying to decide if I want to open Pandoras box, or go another direction. My problem is I love the boat too much.

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            • #7
              If you love the boat then google pictures of Whiskey River's 25 Mako and see it after the upgrades. It will make you open Pandora's box as it looked awesome.
              [br]1984 Mako 224[br]1977 Mako 15[br]Clermont, Florida- [br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=37212 -Rewire[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40627 -Tank/Misc[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=58615 - Aft Box removal

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              • #8
                All boats have issues.

                Looks to me like you have newer power on the boat.

                Might be worth sinking the $$...any new 25 will be big money. Anything old enough to be $15k will have its own issues.

                Are fuel tanks original? If so, that's the only other big item that could be an issue
                ROGUE I[br]1978 235 CC[br]Newburyport, MA[br]ROGUE II[br]1987 17\' Montauk[br]Camden, ME[br]

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                • #9
                  quote:


                  Originally posted by Justin


                  All boats have issues.


                  Looks to me like you have newer power on the boat.

                  Might be worth sinking the $$...any new 25 will be big money. Anything old enough to be $15k will have its own issues.

                  Are fuel tanks original? If so, that's the only other big item that could be an issue


                  Fuel tank was replaced with in 2000. All fuel lines were replaced in 2015 during re-power.

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                  • #10
                    If you give a mouse a cookie.........

                    If you are doing the transom and deck you may as well do the fuel tank as well. Since you are doing the transom, deck and fuel tank you may as well do the wiring and update the electronics.

                    Go big or go home. I would do it all or none. I can't help with cost.

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                    • #11
                      [quote]Originally posted by snappergapper


                      If you love the boat then google pictures of Whiskey River's 25 Mako and see it after the upgrades. It will make you open Pandora's box as it looked awesome.

                      [/quote

                      Is Whiskey River's 25 Mako on CM?

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                      • #12
                        If fuel lines and tanks were done, deck and transom are the only wild cards...outside of moisture having spread to stringers (unlikely it would have traveled much past the aft sections which you can access during transom replacement).

                        So your call, but you won't find a better 25' with 2015 power for less the $10k you'd write to have all issues fixed.

                        BTW, my deck estimate may be a bit low.
                        ROGUE I[br]1978 235 CC[br]Newburyport, MA[br]ROGUE II[br]1987 17\' Montauk[br]Camden, ME[br]

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Empress III



                          ... does it make sense to invest that much.....

                          The answer to that is most likely a resounding no, but you'll probably do it anyway because you "... love the boat too much...." It's an emotional decision, not a rational one.

                          From a dollars and cents standpoint, if you look at the total investment after the work is done, and try to compare it to what you could buy outright for the same money, it probably won't be practical. When it's all rebuilt you'll probably be in it for more than you can sell it for, but you'll have the boat you want.

                          I agree with uscgman. If you are going to go thru with it then get it the way you want it.
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                          • #14
                            I bit the bullet with my 21 and now have a new old boat. It's what I want. Buying another used one didn't make sense ,someone else's problems. With a full transom and a bracket it' s a new boat! []

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                            • #15
                              [/quote

                              Is Whiskey River's 25 Mako on CM?

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                              Yes- He went by Matt. I am sure some super users can attach the link. I will dig through the Funament pictures to see if I can find you one.

                              I did what you are thinking. I added a bracket, filled in the transom, added electronics and a new 250 Suzuki. This has been over 5 years. I bought the boat rather inexpensively but added a bunch. It fished as hard and exactly like me. It is designed for my fishing methods
                              [br]1984 Mako 224[br]1977 Mako 15[br]Clermont, Florida- [br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=37212 -Rewire[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40627 -Tank/Misc[br]http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=58615 - Aft Box removal

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