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  • Poly tanks?????

    Have any of you guys seen this?

    http://www.boats.com/content/default...2/7002/7001/-1

    Hope that link works
    Greenwich, NJ[br]1976 22B

  • #2
    Awwww Screw it! To hell with the link! Just read it here!

    Fuel Tank Awareness

    Could your fuel tank be a time bomb?

    1996

    by Chris Caswell

    After fueling up at the gas dock for a day of waterskiing, Rich McFaul of Stockton, California, stuck his head under the engine hatch to take a quick sniff as he'd been doing for almost 20 years. His 17-year-old son, David, had already settled behind the wheel and was reaching for the key.

    "Dave!," the father shouted, "DON'T TOUCH THAT!"

    Frozen with his hand on the ignition, Dave looked at his father and then he, too, smelled the unmistakable tang of gas fumes. In the bilge and directly under the engine, was a puddle of gasoline. The gas dock attendant took one look, sprinted for the phone and quickly dialed 911 where the operator gave the almost unnecessary advice, "Sir, get everyone well away from the boat."

    The McFauls were lucky — they weren't one of the hundreds of Americans killed or burned and disfigured every year when their boats exploded from leaking fuel. But insurance adjusters and boating experts agree: the number one cause of boating injuries is from leaky fuel tanks.

    There are literally thousands of aluminum fuel tanks in boats across this country that are time bombs waiting to go off ... and yours might be next. Consider that just two ounces of gasoline, or about as much gin as you'd put in your martini, has the explosive power of several sticks of dynamite. It is more than enough to turn your boat into matchsticks, along with anyone unlucky enough to be in it.

    The fact is that aluminum (including the so-called "marine alloys") is a highly anodic material and, in contact with most other metals, it can deteriorate rapidly. Aluminum quickly corrodes when in contact with water and, in particular, salt water. Aluminum is subject to fatigue when it endures continual flexing, such as when the fuel surges around as the boat pounds across a choppy harbor. And then, of course, there is the problem of joints which rely heavily on the experience, or inexperience, of the welder.

    So why do most boat manufacturers use aluminum tanks? The answer is brutally simple: they're cheap. A far better tank is one of the many polyethylene tanks available, but at a higher cost. It is a case of keeping down the price and not worrying about the consequences a few years down the line.

    A corollary to this callous disregard by many boat builders is that they install the aluminum fuel tanks in ways that almost insure that there will be problems. Many builders place the fuel tank in the boat and then seal the cockpit on top of it without leaving a way to inspect or replace the tank.

    This means that if you do find a leak in your tank, you have to literally destroy the cockpit floor of your boat to remove the tank. A few boat manufacturers who have a conscience and basic good sense install a removable panel in the cockpit floor so that owners can regularly inspect the fuel tank thoroughly. On a wood floor, that might mean a piece of plywood above the tank that is screwed into place. On boats with molded cockpit floors, it would be a fiberglass lid that is probably both screwed and siliconed in place.

    Compounding the problem, some manufacturers use foam to help secure the tanks in place. This method is illegal, of course, because federal regulations strictly prohibit encasing a fuel tank in a way that allows water to collect on or around the tank (33 CFR Part 183, Subpart J, Article 183.552, if you're interested).

    Which brings up another problem. Both the U.S. Coast Guard and National Marine Manufacturers Association standards regarding fuel tanks and their installation are almost laughably vague and inept. If you think that little metal plaque attesting that your boat meets USCG and NMMA approvals is an assurance of quality construction or safety, think again. A far better standard, which should be adopted by both organizations, is the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) number 302, which are comprehensive standards for pleasure boats.

    So what can you do to protect your boat and your family? First of all, inspect your tank regularly. No, this doesn't mean just looking at the top of the tank through the 8-inch inspection port provided over the gas fittings. I mean you look — and touch — every square inch of the tank: top, sides and particularly the bottom, which is prone to corrosion from bilge water. If the tank is held in place by straps, loosen them and look under the straps for corrosion.

    If your boat is one that has an uninspectable fuel tank, you're in trouble. You might present the boat back to the dealer and ask him to modify the cockpit floor — at his cost — to allow safety inspections.

    But your boat is only a couple of years old, so how could it be dangerous? When a consumer boating magazine investigated fuel tank failures several years ago, they found that the age of many leaky tanks was less than 4 years old.

    Second, practice safe starting. Just as Rich McFaul discovered, the best fume detector is the human nose. Before you use your boat and every time you refuel, be sure to open the engine cover and take a sniff or two. Don't even flip on the bilge blower until you've poked your nose into the bilge, because a spark may set off that deadly fuel vapor.

    Aluminum fuel tanks in a marine environment are and will always be a problem. Heavier gauge aluminum will lengthen the life, and better mounting and inspection methods will reduce the risk. But, since a non-corrosive substitute is available, boat builders need to eliminate these time bombs from your boat.

    If you do need to replace a leaky fuel tank, find a polyethylene replacement. When the American Boat and Yacht Council used a Coast Guard grant to study poly tanks, they found that the synthetic tanks installed as much as two decades ago had zero failures, and the ABYC says that polyethylene tanks pose no risk at all.

    But until you buy a boat with poly tanks or replace the aluminum tank in your boat, continual watchfulness is your best defense.

    And if you don't think you have time to take the safety precautions of sniffing and inspecting regularly, then you may get a chance to relax in a hospital. If you survive.

    Chris Caswell Copyright © 2001 All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast or redistributed.
    Slidell, LA 1993 Mako 261B - Temperance

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    • #3
      Aha......I knew that I read somewhere about foaming tanks in is against Coast Guard policy.....GREAT ARTICLE.....but I still will install aluminum over poly. It just needs to be in a ventilated compartment to avoid trapping moisture. When I get to that stage in my rebuild I will take some pics of the way I have determined I will incorporate a ventilation system to address this issue.

      Hank

      Southern, Md
      James Havanki[br]Great Mills[br]Southern Maryland[br]1973 22\' still \"in-work\".......lol

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